That’s right HOW BEST TO REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH IN AMERICAN. Go over to michellemalkin.com for more data. What do you guys think – Is socialism coming to America? Are you ready, willing and able to open your pockets for your fellow citizens? Interesting, no? I don’t know how I feel about socialism – I been thinking about it for weeks and I am not sure.
ps make sure you have a look/see at this ad. http://dianej.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/watch-this-ad-obama/
This is very scary stuff.
Every American should listen to this audio of Obama himself talking about his desire for “redistributive change”.
There is no doubt now what his intentions are. Give away money from those that earn it to those who don’t. We’ve been warned.
I encourage everyone to e-mail this audio clip to Drudge, FOXnews, and Rush (as I have).
By: John on October 27, 2008
at 4:13 am
Hi John,
Thanks for your comment. Yes, I will send a note off to Sean Hannity. What worries me is that the media does not report on such things and what 10 – 20% of Americans listen to talk radio and I think ( but I might be wrong ) the average American does not know or understand what is going on here.
Regards,
DianeJ
By: dianej on October 27, 2008
at 4:18 am
You guys are morons. He is not advocating some specific type of redistribution, especially some kind of socialist type of redistribution. We already possess, in this country, a progressive tax system that is by its nature a redistributive mechanism. It was set up to explicitly redistribute wealth from the rich to the poor. Even Adam Smith in the Wealth of Nations (and, John McCain in 2000) advocated for this. So nice try, but no dice.
By: Lindsay on October 27, 2008
at 6:11 am
Truly scary stuff from the mouth of Obama. This is going viral tonight and spreading across the blogs like a wildfire. The Drudge Report has the story up front and center now.
Here’s a good email list to help spread the word about this Breaking News on Obama…
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By: IronMan on October 27, 2008
at 7:39 am
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By: Scroll For Updates: Video: In Obama’s America, we’ll finally be able to break free of the “constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution” — and in so doing, achieve “social justice” through “redistributive change on October 27, 2008
at 1:20 pm
Lindsay,
Do you realize how RUDE you sound by using the word “morons.” Can you not disagree without silly name calling?
BTW thanks for reading my blog but if you intend to ever blog here again – stop at the name calling OK?
Thank you.
Regards,
DianeJ
By: dianej on October 27, 2008
at 3:45 pm
FOX HAS THE AD UP NOW – http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3163765&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,1242,00.html
By: dianej on October 27, 2008
at 4:01 pm
Lindsay,
After your Messiah loses next Tuesday, we’ll be setting up detox centers for Hopium addicts like you. Put down the Kool-Aid today, and take the first step on the path to recovery. We’re here to help.
By: tamerlane on October 27, 2008
at 5:52 pm
Dear Tamerlane,
Thank you for taking the time to write a comment and read my blog. Nobama!
Regards,
DianeJ
By: dianej on October 27, 2008
at 6:44 pm
Wow, calm down people, your reading skills are slipping. Obama makes some very unremarkable and moderate observations about the Constitutional limitations of the courts and NOWHERE does he say he disagrees with that or would seek to change that, as many here seem to gleefully imply. Instead he says “I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributed change and in some ways we still suffer from that.”
For those who have trouble with English, he’s talking about reallocating political POWER. If you think the rich should have all the power, then by all means keep voting for Bush, McCain and the neocons who are out of touch with reality. The rest of us are awake, though, and understand you cannot have a healthy democracy when all the power is concentrated in the hands of a few.
And, BTW, note that he talks about redistributed CHANGE in view of correcting historically proven harms to the economically dispossessed. I guess ya’ll are happy to see the rich get richer and poor get poorer as the middle class sinks down, but the bottom line is that you’re (MP that is, NOT OB) trending towards fascism when you endorse and push policies for corporate welfare for the rich as Bush and McCain do (no-bid contracts for favored supporters anyone?).
Sorry, folks, but this dog won’t hunt.
PS: Progressive taxation is NOT socialism. Get over it.
By: Cy Klone on October 27, 2008
at 8:03 pm
Dear Cy Klone,
In my opinion Obama is a Marxist. Trickle-up-povert (except for a few). Look this dog hunts big bones. Thank you for your comment and reading my blog.
Regards,
DianeJ
By: dianej on October 27, 2008
at 9:42 pm
Cy Klone, your comments are aligned with those philosophies that repeatedly collapse when practically applied.
How does “lossing track” of grass roots community movements translate into “the rich get richer”? You’ll need to connect those dots, because it’s not at all clear. Moreover, what exactly does “redistributed change” translate to?
Where do you think power exists? It exists in wealth, and wealth at the individual level can only exist in free market activities. When a governing body, or a high ranking individual seeks to reditribute power by limiting the wealth of individuals in an attempt to balance power, that person or party ultimately becomes a small group of people (who are by the way, rich themselves) which have heavy persuation in the creation of laws that govern everyone’s wealth. They get to pick and choose which community activites to support and force prosperity to, while others with different agendas can be subdued by law. This is too much power for government to have in our society. The free market, although not perfect will eventually balance the “ecominically dispossessed” and absord any orgainization which gains too much power within it.
Simple case in point. The big bad oil companies who used speculation to inflate prices to a level in which the market did not tolerate, saw the demand inevitably fall. Prices have been adjusted to a level which is tolerated, thus the free market corrected itself not by act of government (although threats were made), but by the collective wealth and bargaining power of individuals. Simple supply and demand.
Government should not be the impetus of prosperity on the poulation. The appeal of the market should.
By the way, look up “fascism”…. sounds a lot like it aligns with the brilliant redisitribution philosophy when you consider what controls must be put in place to fascillitate redistrubtion.
fascism:
1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
By: doggie power on October 27, 2008
at 11:55 pm
As a native Chicagoan, I find it curious how so many people can’t see through this guy. I’m still trying to figure out what he did here in Illinois. (Beside his claim to fame, getting people registered to vote.) The City of Chicago is still the most corrupt in the country, the State of Illinois, still the most corrupt in the Union, the public schools in the City of Chicago are simply awful. He and Durbin are good for nothing. We’ve all heard it but apparently people don’t care; how he voted “present” over 100 times. But if you make a good speech, well, I guess that’s all that really matters.
I could never see a slick, Chicago machine politician in the White House…I’ll take the true PATRIOT and HERO, who might not make the greatest of speeches, but at least he can be trusted to run this country!
By: Kathleen on October 28, 2008
at 12:16 am
Dear Kathleen,
First off thank you for reading my blog and your comment. I too don’t understand how people can not see what is going on.
McCain is the real deal. He has demonstrated to us where his heart his and and he truly is an intelligent person. He is a man we can trust.
Obama on the other hand as a lot of “odd” friends and he really has not done very much as a Senator – did I miss something?
The left wing media knows how to work the country. Obama knows how to work the population. He will has said one thing to one group and another thing to another group – whatever he thinks he should say he says.
Thank you for your comment.
Warm Regards,
DianeJ
By: dianej on October 28, 2008
at 12:37 am
Dear Doggie Power,
Thank you for reading my blog and your comment, it is indeed an interesting one.
Warm Regards,
DianeJ
By: dianej on October 28, 2008
at 12:39 am
Thank you Diane,
To more directly address your topic, if you have not done so already, I recommend reading wikipedia’s definition’s of capitalism and socialism. I wasn’t much interested in economic theories until this election, but by researching all the “hoopla”, it becomes pretty clear that our current capitalistic economy even with it’s faults is a better formula for success, because it more or less leaves prosperity to the individual which predicates a “if you want it, you need to work hard to get it” mentality – as oppossed to an administration which dispenses prosperity.
Socialism tries to aleviate the individual burden by administering economic and social equality. It’s a nice idea, but I think it’s is against human nature which tends to seek the path of least resistance.
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” is a summary of Communism by Karl Marx, by which Socialism he proposed, is the transitional phase from Capitalism to Communism.
So look at China and the social problems they have (Tibet, Falun Gong, etc.) and see how a Solicalist/Communist nation is forced to oppress individual liberties by means of torture and persecution for the “greater good”. We can not let this happen in this country at all. This means NOT electing a president who has any associations whatsoever with those who rationalize such theories, even under the premise of helping people… it’s not that bad in this country, everyone still has a chance at success, we don’t need “change” in that respect.
By: doggie power on October 28, 2008
at 2:21 am
Dear Doggie Power,
Thank you for the information. Yes, I agree that Capitalism is generally a better way to go – you want – you work. Socialism can imprison people within the very system that was designed to assist them.
Very interesting point about Marx’s belief that socialism is teh transitional phase from capitalism to communism. Gosh, I HATE communism (you have to be nuts to like it).
Doggie Power, I sure hope you are blogging on other sites getting the information out-there. Yes, I understand about China. Sad, really sad. I might be wrong but I think China is a bit more open these days regarding business.
You know Doggie Power the one thing that grabs me about socialism is – I wish we could have some kind of national health care system in this country. I know it will not be. Oh well……….
NOBAMA.
REGARDS,
DianeJ
By: dianej on October 28, 2008
at 5:16 am
PS dogs rule!
By: dianej on October 28, 2008
at 5:16 am
Before these simple labels of ’socialist’ and ‘redistributionist’ start actually influencing people’s perceptions of the reality here, people should look at this youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2JPbQOHEkY
In it, you see John McCain in 2000 explaining why it is fair for wealthier people to pay higher taxes while the middle classes get a tax break.
This happens to be exactly the tax policy that Obama is now advocating. If this makes Obama a Socialist now, it means McCain was a Socialist in 2000.
Here is what John McCain’s hero, Teddy Roosevelt, had to say about the progresive tax system:
“I believe in a graduated income tax on big fortunes, and … a graduated inheritance tax on big fortunes, properly safeguarded against evasion, and increasing rapidly in amount with the size of the estate.”
I don’t hear anyone these days arguing that Teddy Roosevelt was a Socialist.
By: Julia on October 28, 2008
at 12:26 pm
Julia,
REALITY IS OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST, TEDDY ROOSEVELT WAS NOT. SOCIALISM DOES NOT JUST DEAL WITH THE ECONOMY, HOWEVER, WITH THAT SAID I WILL SAY THIS JOHN MCCAIN WILL LOWER TAXES PERIOD. SENATOR OBAMA WILL RAISE TAXES AND HE WILL AT SOME POINT HIT THE LOWER MIDDLE CLASS. SENATOR OBAMA IS OUR COUNTRIES MOST LIBERAL SENATOR.
IF YOU WANT TO SLOWLY SAY GOODBYE TO THE AMERICAN DREAM AND EVERYTHING OUR COUNTRY STANDS FOR YOU GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR SENATOR OBAMA BUT I FOR ONE WILL FIGHT ALONG THE SIDE OF JOHN MCCAIN.
PLEASE NOTE THAT IF WE DO NOT WIN THIS ELECTION OUR BATTLE WILL NOT BE OVER. WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE FIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR READING MY BLOG AND REALIZE THIS BLOG IS JUST MY OPINION ON TOPICS
REGARDS,
DIANEJ
By: dianej on October 28, 2008
at 3:21 pm
PS OBAMA’S LEFT ROOTS GO BACK TO HIS EARLY YEARS. THIS MY FRIEND IS REALITY. IT GOES BEYOND OUR ECONOMICAL ISSUES.
By: dianej on October 28, 2008
at 3:22 pm
Julia,
Respectfully, this is a larger issue then taxation. Socialism and Capitalism are economic theories and have no actual textbook rules. Because they are theories and not rules, it’s possible they can share tactics, because both theories want to create prosperity in the societies of which they are practiced.
The current system of tax bracketing can be loosely tied to socialism, but the reality is that it was not adopted under this premise. Under a socialist ideaology, a progressive tax would be consumed by the government and allocated to government run programs designed to balance common wealth while retaining a sizeable proportion for the state administration of such programs. So essentially, the higher taxed rich wil never see that money again.
But In a capitalist government, the premise of progressive taxation is designed to encourage the consumerism of lower income citizens by lowering their taxation. This creates more disposable income which can return to the market and continue to drive the capitalistic society. There is an economic equation called MPC (The Marginal Propensity to Consume), which observes that people will consume more when they have more disposable income.
So if McCain agrees with the progressive tax, it is a Capitalistic view to increase the spending and investment opportunites of those with less.
But it seems that Obama’s “redistributed change” opinion is more aligned with a socialist view to limit the growth of those with more, which I believe will ultimately curb the individual entrepreneurship which made this country the power it is today, and which has afforded us our liberties.
By: doggie power on October 29, 2008
at 2:39 am
here’s something else I just thought of… and this is simple..
McCain says he wants to lower taxes for EVERYONE… whether or not you believe this is another story.
Obama says he want to RAISE taxes for those households making more then $250,000/yr,. Again, believe it or not, it’s up to you….
But why do that? If you really want to help lower income families, then why not LOWER the taxes for those making lLESS then $50,000/yr??
think about it… he wants bigger government, (where do taxes go?) -of which the contitution stands in his way…. which is why in this speech he also called the contitution a “Charter of negative liberties”…. it’s friggen socialism man!!
By: doggie power on October 29, 2008
at 2:59 am
Dogie Power,
Again I thank you for the information.
Regards,
DianeJ
By: dianej on October 29, 2008
at 3:16 am
Thanks Diane,
I really appreciate and commend your dedication to respond to everyone’s postings. It shows you care!
By: doggie power on October 29, 2008
at 3:25 am
I do care and I am learning as I go along from fine people like yourself.
By: dianej on October 29, 2008
at 3:45 am
We will always have the poor and disadvantaged among us, but the people of this country have most always been generous and put out helping hands to those in need. This is the way it should stay. We are at our best when we voluntarily “redistribute” our wealth through volunteering or donating for good causes.
We lose our sense of charity and become resentful when people who are in power seek to enforce such equity. We are deprived of opportunities to give where we see a need when our own resources are taken from us through legislation. We resent not having control over the portion of our means which we have labored to obtain that is taken from us through progressive taxation and are sickened to be forced to involuntarily contribute to causes which we may not endorse.
If communities volunteered their time and monies to expedite the building up of the community and caring for its members instead of borrowing from who knows who, whoever the profiteers are, and save the funds required before going forward with a project, they would avoid having to pay interest monies and ultimately flourish, as opposed to always being resigned to dishing out payments until a debt is repaid… at which time upgrades are required and the process is repeated when those monies which went into interest could easily have covered if they had not gone into someone’s private pocket.
Taxation is a form of socialism because it takes our money through force and redistributes it. As long as there are those who are dishonest and greedy, that redistribution will be inequitable and much of it will find its way into the pockets of those in power. We helplessly witness our representatives vote themselves pay increase after pay increase after they feel good about raising the minimum wage to it’s next minuscule increase, then watch them and our presidents retire after their terms are up on 100’s of thousands of our tax dollars each every year…. a kind of welfare I find more reprehensible than that extended to the poor of the nation.
By: ceseme on November 2, 2008
at 9:55 pm
Thank you for your comment. I shall re-read it and reply at a later time.
By: dianej on November 3, 2008
at 6:38 pm